This interview is nearly 30 years old. Yet it's fresher today than it's ever been and just as relevant if not more so. Listen to what Werner is saying. Listen to what he sounds like. Listen to where he's coming from. Listen to where it lands for you. It's extraordinary. Beautiful, rare opportunity 5 Laurence Platt 2005-12-30 23:58:14 2005-12-31 00:25:13 Barbara Walters: "$250 times 650,000 graduates comes to something like Sixteen Million Dollars. Most of the EST workers are volunteers, and people feel that you're absolutely cleaning up! And they want to know where this money goes?" Werner Erhard: "All of the money that EST generates essentially goes back into expanding the services for graduates and keeping EST healthy." Barbara Walters: "Sixteen Million Dollars?" What a funny little audio clip, that shows the blaringly obvious problem, as far back as 1976! In fact, funds were probably used until this very day, to fund Werner Erhard's excursions in the Cayman Islands with Goenneke Spits. For a more accurate portrayal of Werner Erhard, go rent the DVD of the movie "Semi-Tough", with Burt Reynolds and Kris Kristofferson. Skip ahead to "Scene 12" in the DVD. Burt Convy does a "spot on" impression of Werner Erhard. Sixteen Million Dollars in 1976... 1 friederichbismark 2006-11-15 20:23:11 2006-11-15 20:23:11 Walters says - <<Let me discuss this person Werner Erhard, um, why did you change your name from Jack Rosenberg to Werner Erhard?...>> Erhard responds - <<The truth is Barbara, that uh, about sixteen years ago I left my family and I have a very determined mother and an uncle who was at that time a Captain on the Philadelphia Police Department, and I didn't want to be located..>> The more I learn about all of this stuff pertaining to this guy, I keep wondering, "Why all of the deception?", Why can't he admit, as freidrichbismark said, where the money really went? Why did he feel the name to hide from his family and his uncle the Police Captain? This just all seems to reflect lots of lying and lack of integrity. Walters: "I heard that you were a flop." 1 Irving Heisenberg 2006-11-16 00:00:36 2006-11-16 00:00:36 Our family of 8 all took the training in 1975 and 1976. It was wonderful. I can remember all the grumbling about the $250 it cost, and telling friends that if it had cost $1,000,000, I would have been happy to spend the rest of my life paying it off. That's how wonderful the training was for me. And I still feel that way 32 years later. Do I think Werner may have forgotten who he was after a while? Maybe. Does that change my extreme gratitude for him for what a I got out of the training? Not a bit. Personally, I thank God for the est training, and the intensity and feeling of being so alive is with me to this day. the training Fran Mienik 2007-11-14 00:31:42 2007-11-14 00:31:42 5 4 3.00